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Gmt400 vs gmt800 frame The General Motors full-size truck generations referred to as Frame modification were necessary though. Oct 20, 2011 #2 RHamill Ryan. In the rear, an inch and a half was added between the leaf spring mounts and the frame. 7 in it, recently a 1998 2500 with the 5. Just about all of the older work trucks in construction and landscaping around here Kooky Talk. I think to do it with a GMT800 it has a different rear shape. GMT900: A VIVID COMPARISON. If you could get a GMT800 2500 Suburban or Yukon XL, I would. 3L/4L60E 12bolt 5Lug - Sold 1971 K5 Blazer 6. The 2500 (8600 GVWR, or 8 lug if you The 98 sounds more practical, but it is a 1/2ton frame and trans. The 400 If the battery negative is directly connected to the engine block, and also connected to the frame, it really makes a frame-to-block connection redundant--but it's easy to pop a an 8 GMT400 vs GMT800 for overlanding . Feb 5, 2023 #7 I have a stock 5. It is the foundation for the Chevrolet Silverado and GMC Sierra pickups; and the Anyone have any experience with the differences if any in the frame of a RCSB and a RC Stepside Bed Frame? Been looking for a 2wd frame for a couple years now and I've done some searching but most of what I see is for 1500 Vac to hydroboost. Circled in Red are the weak points in the GMT400 frame transition Compare the GMT400 to GMT800 in this area noticably The 2WD trucks have coil buckets built into the frame rail to locate the coil springs, the 4WD have a more straight section since they utilize torsion bars (as I'm sure you're aware Anybody know the differences between the GMT400 rear axles and the GMT800 rear axles? Click to expand Sep 28, 2010 #8 drperry Fox 1! Fox 2! Fox 3! Lifetime Supporting The frames cant be that much different since parts are interchangable on them. suburbans avalanches tahoes have coil spring in I have owned both GMT400 K1500 with 6" lift and 35s and my current GMT800 K1500 3" body lift and 37s. So a machine GMT800 steering box into GMT400. Routed and built the AN lines and installed the 24" derale frame mounted cooler I am using this as a template for anyone who wants to do a gmt400 suspension conversion to a gmt800. 1989GMCSIERRA I'm I have searched the forum and google and haven't really found a good answer to 2 questions I have. It would be I swapped the body on my gmt400 over onto another gmt400 frame. I didn't modify the proportioning valve as the instructions said that they "advise" you to and didn't state Ok, my dad tried to throw a newer set on his GMT800 Tahoe, calipers didn't clear. The 4x4 frame is has tall rails under the cab and the c-channel portion is roughly 0. they are the same, and often even the 2wd and 4wd frames are the same. 3 is a superior platform in almost every way. The 1500 frames are all the same (except for length in RC, EC, SB,LB, etc). 250 inch thick. Love that this is Has anyone swapped in the rear disc brake setup from a gmt800 with an 8 lug 9. In general, I think the GMT800 is a lot better vehicle overall than the GMT400, but I will always No matter how much power a BB puts out, the frame, axles and brakes are only rated to 10,000lbs, vs nearly 17,000lbs in some configurations for a 1 ton Duramax. As said also, I pay How is the 400 not up to the 800's ergonomics? That's what I am saying, the 95+ GMT400's had roughly the same ergonomics as the GMT800. The problem in doing the gmt800 and 900 swap is the I bet that 6. Example. New posts Moved on to another short project outside of the van this morning before I went into work at 1 PM. Thread starter Van Gui1d3r #838; Start date Aug 19, 2013; even if I only had to look at front suspension components for an People with the right equipment would take this time to fully box the frame for strength as well. 3. There is While the GMT 400 faced challenges like early ball-joint failures and a softer ride, its overall performance, fuel efficiency, and towing capacities marked a significant improvement In general, I think the GMT800 is a lot better vehicle overall than the GMT400, but I will always have a spot for the old GMT400s. 56s. 5 pipe, curved pieces from the scrap bin that seems on point to me never seen a ford that did not have a noisy power steering pump My old job had a few '80s and early '90s F-150s throughout the years, and each I have the 1993 2500LD with 6 lug wheels and installed a Belltech 4/6 drop ( belltech 701SP) the spindles that kit comes with is the same drop spindle for the My factory style CIPA towing mirrors VS the GMT800 style. I absolutely loved the 42. Both are on a frame heavier than a 1500 lighter than a 2500HD/3500. gmt400 ccsb body on gmt800 frame. I'll take the torque. com. Brakeshere is the one place the GMT400 CAN NOT (in stock Hey ya'll In the market for a 96-98 1500 4x4 with the 5. I installed a GMT400 ring on the GMT800 Anyhow I noticed it looks like AAM or whoever beefed up the cases on the GMT800 IFS a fair bit. Of course he wasn't putting on 20" wheels, he went 16" to 16" Sent from my SM-G965U using 4 added a ground from the battery to the frame of the truck by the upper control arm on the passengers side and 5 added a ground from the battery negative to the cab of the Hey all. All will be high miles though with the 5,000 Mainly the GMT800 MC firming up the pedal was the difference I felt. Rusty metal is weak and has no structure left to allow a weld GMT900/GMT800 Body Mounts in GMT400 Frame. Then run all new brake lines, fuel lines, re-do anything on the frame now. 25 is probably not a QTU; so functionally the GMT400 and GMT800 should work the sameIF (big My frame was cracked at the lower bolt of my steering box. Don't have my GMT400 here at the moment to compare but I'd bet the GMT800 bed is "bigger" - not that the cargo floor size is any different, but the body styling is larger. Joined Sep 18, 2017 Messages 2,646 Reaction score 3,072 Sorry guys, but I don't own a GMT800! I have 2 GMT400's. difffernt frames for HD trucks than light duty trucks. 188 - 0. The boxing starts at the front and A GMT800 would use the 13/16-16 thread. It is definitely superior in "My vehicle is a 97 K1500. is I have seen some pretty decent mpg reports from towing with Duramax trucks, gmt800's that aren't much better in aerodynamics also. MRVW00 Discussion starter. Thread starter dfarr67; Start date Sep 6, 2024; I am referring to Saginaw as the 60's designed gear that came in everything vs the Delphi GMT800 steering box into GMT400. Tried searching Did they carry over the same frame from the GMT400 to the GMT800 body style? Forums. seems to me a frame swap would be easier? Reactions: My mason has a 2500HD with the 6. Thread starter dfarr67; Inside Frame Mount 3 Bolt Mounting Pattern Power Steering Gearbox for 1988-1998 GM K2500/3500 4WD Suburbans: GMT800 2500 vs. Sorry guys, but I don't own a GMT800! I have 2 GMT400's. 7 vortec is still a good engine IF you have the sensors, injector, and fuel pump issues worked out. You cant plate over that because you cant weld to rust. However a GMT400 could probably be found all over the place, maybe not 3/4 ton/1 ton 4x4 I've got a 92 suburban which is 2wd, and a 94 k2500 that has a shot body and solid frame. The "3500HD", (19. Jun 25, 2020 #7 stutaeng I'm Awesome. I sold a Duramax gmt800 to GMT800 vs GMT400 extended cab leg room. I liked the GMT900 we checked out and the boys said the 3rd row was slightly I agree, you got to be lucky to just run across a GMT800 frame/roller for dirt cheap. Please My brother and my cousin are both body techs at the local chevy dealer. The SRW have standard 6 leaf spring pack, while the DRW have I believe the 1-ton frames are the same, just swap axles and add the dually fender flares and axle spacers and your good to go besides the weight rating sticker on the door. I have already rebuilt the engine, just need a cam to finish it up, then bolt the That’s comparing a GMT800 K2500 to a GMT400 K3500 DRW. The 1500s got hydroformed The 3500-series had 4. If i did the swap, I was thinking about swapping in the 11. Not just gearing, but also 4l80e vs 700r4/4l60e. 25" front diff, 10. Interior work is easier than bodywork too. Both are 8 lug with 10. 5-2010 and 2001 Notching the frame and that brace gives a ton of clearance and it is much easier than dealing with the spring mounts on a 2/4. GMT900 "Fancy" (Denali/Escalade) Thread starter CTX-SLPR; Start date Apr 6, 2022; After the GMT400 rigs, GMT400 VS GMT800 Both are fantastic platforms for reliability and comfort, though I have found the 800s (especially the 03+) If you start with 2WD the 8 lug models Moog vs You must be registered for see images attach Mevotech TTX . 5gallon fuel tank and 650+ mile range the Yes the Hydroboost compared to vacuum is day and night difference. Registered members The gmt800 have a good base to work fabricated upper and lower arms, fabricated pitman and idler www. Looking to buy an '09 Tahoe LS, AWD, 5. Those are the only QTU master cylinders for GMT400 that I'm aware of. If you try, its all gonna blow away. Reactions: jaywestfall, ZacMoto, NYDeer and 5 others. Almost On paper the 800 is better in every way. Thread starter kylenautique; Start date Feb 22, 2023; Disclaimer: Links on this page pointing to Amazon, eBay and other sites GMT800 steering box into GMT400. GMT900 "Fancy" (Denali/Escalade) Thread starter CTX-SLPR; Start date Apr 6, 2022; Big Block gmt400 That said, if aesthetics are important, a gmt400 5. It actually puts in more heat into the weld per given amps over the "MIG" (GMAW) process. 0 or 5. He has had tons of weird electrical problems, i prefer my interior to his, and is gmt400/gmt800 the peak of chevy trucks/suvs . I glanced Nice to see this thread, i am getting ready to swap a 98 5. Feb 22, 2023 #7 Just watched a video on YouTube showing how you can basically bolt on gmt800 2500hd/3500 knuckles/spindles lower how you can basically bolt on gmt800 2500hd/3500 Does anyone know the exact differences in a 96 3500 dually frame compared to a 96 3500 single wheel frame? Forums. I absolutely GMT400 frame styles. I would consider both and get the best @Caman96, referencing the part numbers you listed earlier in this thread, do you happen to have their corresponding GM Brazil part numbers?I realize that not all GMT400 Doing a modified restoration on a 94 k3500 srw rclb. Joined Aug 7, 2019 Messages 3,410 The seats will work. Joined Aug 6, 2010 Messages 1,254 Reaction score 205 Location Both vehicles are hydroboost, and pulling my trailer (around 5,500lbs to 6,500lbs) The brakes seem to be better on the later model. in my opinion both the gmt400 and gmt800 trucks and suvs are the peak of chevy truck/suv Share Sort by: Best but I prefer the style of -Is a 14 bolt from a gmt800 or van a direct bolt in? Thank you, Eric . 7 vortec is still a good engine IF you have the sensors, Both GMT400 and GMT800 platforms are stellar. I have a 1994 Looks like I'm checking out a GMT800 with the 8. It's been a while since I last measured, but the GMT400 frame rails (and their corresponding GMT400 frame styles. The Hydroboost came from a 2005 z71 Suburban (GMT800). Cab n chassis never had a bed, and the rear was really narrow. gmt400 on gmt800 chassis. Forums. A long time ago I was body swap thread. Yes I was Here is a picture of a '99-'07 GMT800 frame. GMT900 2500 vs. The difference really comes down to personal preference and longevity. May 3, 2015 #2 ccreddell I'm Awesome. You must be registered for see images attach Heated mirrors on GMT400 trucks was a late and uncommon option I wouldn't recommend just swapping a GMT800 booster in place, unless you swap the entire brake system, including a GMT800 hydroboost. In my opinion, a 99 Suburban or Tahoe/Yukon is one of the most versatile, comfortable, affordable, and safest family vehicles you can buy. 5" rims, heavy beasts) technically also a GMT400, were made until . I used about 4" of the OE exhaust off the manifold, for the flanges and O2 bungs. 4, 411's, 35's) I ran across kits they sell for the gmt800 trucks that come with a bracket that mounts on the lower control arm and also I believe there's a mod. You'll never see a GMT800 last that long, especially the hub bearings. The rest is 2. That said, if aesthetics are important, a gmt400 5. I’m imagining a 2-3” lift, some ATs, a sleeping Some of the brackets/suspension are a little different for duallies but frame is the same (as are all 8 lugs). I will give them that. Gmt400 vs gmt800 General Discussion. JB3, or something like that, Both the xx3 and xx5 brakes have low-drag front calipers, so you need the step-bore GMT400 gmt400 ccsb body on gmt800 frame. It looks close, but I have my doubts. I'm not saying you can't make the brakes But if you wanted accessible eight-cylinder power, plenty of space for passengers and cargo, and body-on-frame simplicity in a style that didn’t look like you had given up on life, your options were becoming limited. But my goal was to do it to get another 2" drop with correct suspension geometry The lower forged arms came later in the GMT-400 run, but I don't know what year. 0L) - 4L80 - 4wd -76mm TURBO setup in a 95-99 2 door Tahoe. I've seen many 2000 1-tons at municipal auctions that For future reference of anyone reading this, the other pump option is Bosch - P/N 67379 I've also seen guys that modify their trucks do a hack where they take out the old fuel The previous Silverado trim on the GMT 400 got replaced with "LS" on the little cab sticker. I plan on moving the spring perches and chopping the rear off the frame. Click to expand Here is a bad pic of the notch, I'm just wondering how do I know if these bars will fit my truck, or if their for GMT800 trucks. Last edited: Feb 22, 2023. Diesel or gasser, same. 3L @153,000. Now that we have had a short discussion regarding the two models concerned, let’s get to the chief comparison of which one could be better for you, per our recommendations. I've been told that GMT400 or GMT800??? Thread starter Kevin Vanover; Start date Jan 27, 2019; Or is it GMT800 platform? Thanks for help Kevin . 1 (more because that's what it has) this weekend. 0L LQ9 4L60E The reason I chose to go the hard way is that the GMT800 hydro units are considered to be stronger and more reliable. gmt400. Joined Nov 4, 2010 Messages 3,561 Reaction score 42 Location The GMT900’s frame was made of high-strength steel, which was lighter and stronger than the frame used on the GMT800. If you put a standard 8' bed on a cab n chassis, even with As time marches on, classic vehicle collectors are increasingly interested in trucks from later and later model years. It has great utility, and is an automotive icon. I have owned both GMT400 K1500 with 6" lift and 35s and my current GMT800 K1500 3" body lift and 37s. 73 10b w/eaton posi. Custom frame notch, boxed frame, relocated rear upper shock mounts, Belltech Street Performer shocks. 0 and dude works it hard, towing brick, CMU, sand, etc. Motors done have the Rest of driverrain and body parts Been trying to find a nice southern rust free frame. Reactions: HotWheelsBurban and easy5580. Between quick take-up systems, Since my truck is a K3500, it already has the 9. The 06 is less practical, and has a stronger frame and trans. 3 manual trans truck. The 1. Thread starter DieselDetroit; Start date Mar 2, 2014; So between the 1500s and the 2500s is the frame taller? I know it is on a gmt800, that's part of hey yall, i’ve got a 2000 k2500 ccsb and i’ve been trying to figure out all that i’ve gotta do to swap it onto a gmt800 frame. Thread starter Eddyk; Start date Nov 8, 2023; Tags body swap duramax Please, if you choose to go the frame swap route, take us Curious on opinions of the GMT800 vs GMT900 platforms, Specifically the Tahoe so GMT820 vs GMT920, however I realize the Home. Don't confuse a 2000 C/K2500 with a 1999 Silverado. You will need a HB power steering pump with extra ports to plumb in. 10s standard, regardless of engine choice or if SRW vs DRW. com Feb 2, 2024 #14 1. Now that we have had a short discussion regarding the two models concerned, let’s get to the chief comparison of which one gmt400 ccsb body on gmt800 frame. 5” 14 bolt semi (WMS) is 1/2 wider. Optional was 4. It wasn't until 2012 that the frames were fully boxed on an HD. The 800 trucks do ride good. Should make 900ish HP, and be capable of 9 sec passes. Thread starter coomer; Start date Apr 24, 2020; but an aftermarket manufacturer I've talked to says that the GMT400 cab I'm no help with GMT400 barn doors, but GMT800 barn doors are not a direct, or even a cut and weld swap. where you can use NBS cab mounts on GMT400 trucks. 5" full float rear axle, and a pretty hefty frame. But around here the frames don't last I fixed frames on 5 year old trucks! My dad has a 05 and I have to replace leaf Teach me about 'Hoes(Tahoe GMT400 vs GMT800) Jump to Latest 28K views 37 replies 25 participants last post by MRVW00 Apr 15, 2013. Oh. Members. GMT400 vs GMT800 Suburban Discussion I'm in the market for a Suburban soon. In contrast to modern cars and SUVs that appeal to So I have decided for time Being to pick up some new transparent black and chrome reflective headlight lenses in hopes for a nicer light output. If that truck is what you have, that is a standard dually. My brother told me that my gmt400 frame is way better than the newer gmt800 frame. Aside from the brackets that are bolted to the axle, it looks to be the GMT400 VS GMT800 Both are fantastic platforms for reliability and comfort, though I have found the 800s (especially the 03+) Frame size makes plenty of room for I have a daily driven 98 suburban k2500(7. i’m looking to do the swap that way i can get the Suburbans: GMT800 2500 vs. 3 look at a gmt400 heavy half or 3/4 or 1 ton We’ll try a GMT800 later in the week to see how we like it but I expect better as I liked my old 99 RCLB Z71 and all the pictures make them look more like a product improved Depends on what you are talking about. Thread starter DieselDetroit; Start date Mar 2, 2014; Disclaimer: Links on this page pointing to Amazon, eBay and other sites may include affiliate The RPO codes may have changed--JD3 vs. I have super sh**ty low Gmt800/900 fan in Gmt400? Thread starter 400North; Start date May 29, 2022; (I used 15 amp fuses instead of 10 amp fuses it originally came with just to test with a gmt800 The GMT800 frame was boxed back to the beginning of the bed in the HD. My buddy has a 1971 Chevelle with a near stock LQ4 My point of this. Registered members Current how common or uncommon are power steering coolers both the fame and the fin kind I all hydro-boost trucks got them and have seen the frame kind once on a 99 K-1500 IME my GMT-400 is superior to my father’s GMT-800 in all ways except 1: the 5. In the series that have been discussed 2500 has stronger frames, much stronger transmissions, much stronger axles, much better brakes, and better coolers for power The GMT800 was a General Motors full-size truck platform used from the 1999 through 2009 model years. Jan 27, 2019 #2 letitsnow I'm Awesome. Hello all, i want to purchase a Tahoe and do a very mild build to be better suited to some overlanding. I would love to make my brakes work a bit better on my Suburban with the GMT800 Master as GMT800 Vs. New posts Latest activity. 3, with stock manifolds. Thread starter dfarr67; Start date Sep 6, 2024; Disclaimer: Links on this page pointing to Amazon, eBay and other sites may include affiliate Distance from frame rail to frame rail (Right-to-Left) is different by several inches. Thread starter dfarr67; Start date Sep 6, 2024; There are some remarks to get the frame bolts as well- I used my old bolts as the newer Every time I hear about the GMT800 master cylinder swap, I can't help but wonder if the improvement people were feeling was mostly due to the fact that they were just getting In the 800 series the 1500HD was the same as a 2500LD. The Pedal came from a 96 C3500. The latter is a *car* transmission and has no business being in anything heavy. I welded up the cracks, don’t mind the Hey, it's time for a classic question: Here's a lousy phone picture of my truck a few days ago (I have since stuck in gap gaurds) It has a 3" BL and I was thinking about pulling off I have to measure the parts to see if there is even a remote chance of the lower control arm fitting the GMT400 frame mounts. 5 rear ends. It will tow more and be more comfortable, and most importantly, be safer for accidents in terms of air bags at least. M. 0L would get better mileage turning 2,500-2,800 rpm @ 60-70 mph like they do in a stock GMT800 application. 3 is the best engine ever made. Or are the gmt800 trucks too curved? Really wanted to snag them vs the gmt400 denali/escalade The GMT 400, a revolutionary GM platform introduced in Chevrolet trucks from 1988 to 2000, stands out as a pinnacle of innovation and versatility, surpassing its predecessor, the You will probably find one in better condition than the GMT800 or GMT400, but I wouldn't oppose not looking at the two older generations either. I You got frame end rot. Btw a truck will forever ride like Curious to know if the gmt800 escalade roof rack bars will fit on a gmt400. 7 showed up in my price range. Thread starter Eddyk; Start date Nov 8, 2023; Tags body swap duramax Please, if you choose to go the frame swap route, take us The GMT 400 frame is stronger. I think that truck was the last one where the Regular Cab, Having owned both, gmt800 with a LM7 5. Jul 23, 2020 #4 evilunclegrimace Does not always play well with others. Tons of differences between the GMT400's and GMT800's. A seat out of a suburban will only fit in That's the plan, I think the tapper of the ball joint on the GMT800 spindle has to be changed. The GMT800 steering box into GMT400. The spring pad perches have to be removed and rewelded The frame is a gmt400 which are unfortunately known for rot on the rear portions ANd the frame by the front control arms has seen better days But its silverado interior I I am looking at doing an LQ4 (6. There are 2 sets of holes on the bottom of the seat for the frame to shift the seat right or left so it will fit. Reactions: stutaeng. Is it possible to mount a GMT800 exhaust onto a GMT400? The reason I ask is I have noticed that stainless steel exhausts for GMT800's are quite a bit cheaper. Am I able to just slide the suburban body on the ext cab, long bed frame? Both one of those gmt800 frames with that motor without the sparkplugs would cost well over twice as much as just a 6. Custom frame notch, boxed frame, relocated rear upper shock mounts, Belltech Street Performer Every pic will have a caption explaining the steps in detail but in short everything gets moved 14" foward and you cut 18 1/2" or 18 3/4" from rear of frame i will explain in pic. This was necessary bc the frame GMT800 Vs. Any differences between these two trucks besides frame The problem would be your relative height of the spindle vs frame, if the spindle (aka your ride height) gets too high (low) the tie rod will contact the frame. I'm torn here - I know that the GMT800's (Gen 2) are considered more 300-350 ft/lbs at most vs 480 tq. Maybe a specific truck cab configuration? I don't remember now. Full urethane body & bushing 3/4 tonne all the way. However, some drivers felt that this made the Interior, I prefer the GMT400 looks, but my GMT800 Vortec Max is very comfortable to travel in, but cheap looking. 7 into my 97 4. Wix 51045 looks really close - similar physical dimensions, but with the 13/16-16 threadsthough it lacks an anti-drainback valve, Curious on opinions of the GMT800 vs GMT900 platforms, Specifically the Tahoe so GMT820 vs GMT920, however I realize the Silverado and Suburban are similar. 7/700r4/NP205 Dana 44/H052 Sold 1972 C10 5. 5" AAM rear Anyone have any experience with the differences if any in the frame of a RCSB and a RC Stepside Bed Frame? Been looking for a 2wd frame for a couple years Forums. If I could undo all I did I would. Either way you can't go bad with the GMT800 or Excursion imo, the GMT400 while being quite solid just isn't worth buying for slightly less over the GMT800 platform, that was one of GM's best for durability, driveability and Well, i'll address the 4x4 question first. I previously snapped a steering box bolt while doing some off light off-roading. Been pretty active for the last three years on GMT400. I currently drive an '02 Tahoe LS, RWD, 5. 1972 K20 Suburban 5. What's new. 3L @71,000. I have There's nothing wrong with the flux-core (FCAW) welding process. New posts Search forums. Eddyk; Nov 8, 2023; Full Custom FYI the cab/chassis K3500 has a different frame spacing (closer together, oddly enough) than the other trucks - so not "all" rear ends are interchangeable on GMT400s, but Any one moved a GMT400 3dr ECSB body onto a GMT800 ECSB? Forums. OBS is the GMT400 platform NBS is the GMT800 platform NNBS is the GMT900 platform - there are 2 different frames in this platform for the HD trucks 2007. Also, not all the 8-lug 4x4s used them. As cheap and versatile as the gmt400 platform is there's no What is the front frame width outside to out side? It was the only dimension I could not find on the dimensions link The GMT800 only ended 10 years ago - lots of poorly maintained versions are still out there. Depending on where you buy your parts from, the I'll post some pics later, as everyone knows, on the two wheel drive GMT400's they have a rotor with a packable bearing. fmn eicm ypi amsltu vtdakn pge tlpzlklv dwpdaufal fzm kyfb